Remastered Books
Hi everybody, like most of you I have read all 5 of the Ascension Series (at least twice) - so, I was wondering, a question for Open or anybody who has the original books and has read the new remastered works - how different are the remastered books to the originals (apart from the cover design)? Is there much important new material to be found?
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Wow! Absolution remastered is AWESOME!
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Hi Open,
Oh Wow! While reading the remastered Absolution: Transcending the Wheel of Karma, I felt like my heart chakra was expanding wildly. I was trying to breathe through the chakras and keep them open. I almost felt like I couldn't contain all the energy. The book motivated me extremely! I've been crazy, wild, funny so much the last couple of days, my friends are laughing with tears. I have no smart phone because my plan has been to go off-grid when control gets too ridiculous. I'm not going digital either. I've never conformed to forced control and won't now. I think remastering the book really opened my eyes, I felt like the information took hold very well.
Ok, now my question is, how soon can I order that new Divinicus book you are remastering? It took a full 2 weeks to get the Absolution book and I'd like to get Divinicus asap once it comes out in print.
I have a kundalini question too after reading Absolution so will do a post for it elsewhere.
Thank you for keeping things up to date on the books to help us work through the karma. That's not the easiest part for me.
Much love, 🙏
Sherri
Reading ABSOLUTION - heart expanding wildly! 💖
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Hi Sherri, I'm quietly smiling as I read this...
Oh Wow! While reading the remastered Absolution: Transcending the Wheel of Karma, I felt like my heart chakra was expanding wildly. I was trying to breathe through the chakras and keep them open. I almost felt like I couldn't contain all the energy. The book motivated me extremely!
Brilliant!
And as to your question about DIVINICUS, there are just a couple of final stages in the setup to complete. Then we'll announce the release - it'll happen soon.
Well wishes
<<< Open 💖
Soul fragmentation and karma
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Hi Shantiram and Open,
Thank you both for posting this conversation here. It's been very insightful. It also brought up some questions of my own.
Open, you said:
In the second case, the natural flow of the soul can also be blocked by heftily disciplined yogic practice, which overwrites the energy of karma in the 4D body - or, as is often the case, dispels the karmic energy but without first dealing with the triggering that created it.
Could you explain that a bit more? As I understand it, tantric tradition says that their practices destroy karma. And yes, they greatly emphasize the importance of highly disciplined yogic practices, which sounds a bit dogmatic to me. But a main purpose of those practices is supposedly to clear energetic disturbances or debris in the chakras so energy can flow more effectively through your entire being. Is that not the same as allowing your soul to flow through?
You also said:
Namely - there are two aspects to karma: 1) the soul fragmentation that causes it; 2) the energetic debris that builds around the fragmentation and creates the memories. Spiritual practice often inadvertently strips out the energy (and with that the memory), but without first integrating the soul.
Could you also explain what you mean by soul fragmentation more? And isn't removing the energy of karma the same as removing karma? I thought karma was essentially energy. So maybe I'm asking, what is karma exactly?
I've heard tantrics say that a soul cannot fragment because a soul is one structure of consciousness, so to speak. A piece would never break off from it because it's a whole thing that can't be divided. And when it comes to karma, to me, it seems like karma might be a distorted frequency or dissonance in a soul structure. So when some people speak of "soul retrieval", I've assumed that it means bringing those dissonant aspects of a soul back into harmony with its natural vibrations, which is kind of similar to the tantric concept of clearing energetic disturbances in the chakras. There's not actually a piece of soul that has fragmented and gone anywhere.
I know my understanding of all that could be completely out to lunch, and these are very mind-based questions as mine often are, so any of your reflections are very welcome.
Warm wishes 🙏
Zoe
The question invites a question ⁉️
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Hi Shantiram,
I'm intrigued by your question, and I will answer it at the surface level, but I would also kindly say, it points to something deeper about your own enquiry and journey right now, which I go on to explore afterwards...
Firstly, about the books, in summary...
1) BREAKTHROUGH: It had around 70 extra pages added to it. But more important than the page count, it was a deeper development of the philosophy surrounding it. Based on the 10 years of extra experience working with people here
2) 5GATEWAYS: Same number of pages, and essentially the same content. However, the text and vocabulary have been carefully refined. Wording can be tremendously important for unlocking inner doorways
3) ABSOLUTION: has essentially the same content as its predecessor RESURRECTION. But much more depth and emphasis was applied to the meaning of 'Absolution' across the karmic plane - what's the intricacy of undertaking that critical aspect of the journey within (the name was changed also to reflect the level of this importance)
4) DIVINICUS: is nearly completed and readying for release in May. It has around 70 pages of extra text, including deeper insights into the nature of the Intervention, and most importantly, updated reflections on how best to ascend out.
5) AVALONIA: Will be very similar to the previous version, but with some important footnotes to bring it up to speed with the current Shift situation.
My question to you now is: Why ask the question? And: Where is the question coming from?
The question, in terms of asking other people's opinions on the differences between the books, invites an inquiry at your own soul level. Indeed, are you coming from the soul, or just the intellect?
The books could be read a zillion times. Each paragraph is potentially activational at a soul level - providing that is, we're truly exploring it at a soul level. Many people I know have marked key paragraphs throughout the text. And they keep referring back.
Many people have commented on how they see and feel different things at different times, depending on where they are at in their journey.
The overall purpose of remastering, was to bring the content into the deepest relevancy of where the Shift is now, and, ideally, to make it futureproof.
However, respectfully, it feels to me, like your question itself, is pointing to a requirement to go deeper beyond the intellect and into the abode of the soul - did the soul gain from the first read? Does it now gain in a deeper way from the second? But of course, you'd have to be reading at a soul level to answer the question.
It feels to me like that is the real question: Where are you actually inquiring from? And is this not an invitation to go deeper?
Love and well wishes
<<< Open 💎
The Conversation Continues
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Dear Open,
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to answer my questions. I am sorry that you felt the urge to judge my motives for asking them on an "Open" forum. You may have a valid point about my reluctance to "dive in" but, to be fair, you don't know me or the many paths I have wandered along for the past 73 years, so I won't be trying to justify myself on the forum.I admire your tireless work and your presentation style and I believe I may benefit from your guided meditations - but I am nobodys "groupie". I practice tantric kriya pranayam for 30 minutes every morning around 3 am followed by at least an hour and a half of silent meditation, so I am not just dipping my toe in while sitting on the spiritual river bank. I discovered your work via David Ickes Ickonic platform as I have followed Davids work since I first met him in Oxford in 1991. You have since parted company, I would suggest due to a difference of opinion on "karma" and on your insistence on its importance. I am inclined to believe that karma may be an Archontic trick to trap souls within the simulation through a guilt trip - much like the concept of sin. The fact that we don't remember our past life actions makes the idea of "working through our karma" a tad tricky. I don't see the 5D as the ultimate goal of my spiritual quest as it is possibly on one of maybe 12 dimensions within the simulation. So, I suppose my goal, if that is the right term, would be the one that Gautama realised - the "emptyness" of the true void of infinite potential or Nirvana.Respect and Blessings,Shantiram
Open Replies
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Ed: This is a reply by Open to Shantiram from private exchanges...
Past Life Encounter?
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Hi Shantiram,
In terms of past lives, I believe I can clearly see one of yours.Do you have a resonance with Tibet?If you’d like me to share, I will.I usually ask people to put their inquiries on the website, because my inbox is always pretty full, and by sharing on the web, it can help others too.But briefly…I believe our paths crossed previously in Tibet - that you were a monk in the same monastery of Tashi Lhunpo. As I explained in the book AVALONIA, I didn’t agree with the practices there, for a number of reasons. Specifically I see a parallel with the teachings there and what you’re likely experiencing now. Namely - there are two aspects to karma: 1) the soul fragmentation that causes it; 2) the energetic debris that builds around the fragmentation and creates the memories. Spiritual practice often inadvertently strips out the energy (and with that the memory), but without first integrating the soul. Chanting mantras can do that, for example, and excessively forced breath work, prior to the regression process.That’s a sense of what I see.Love and respect.<<< Open
Dipping toes in the flow 🏞️
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Hi Shantiram,
It's right that you posted these private exchanges here on the open forum - because that way everyone can benefit.
You said:
I practice tantric kriya pranayama for 30 minutes every morning around 3 am followed by at least an hour and a half of silent meditation, so I am not just dipping my toe in while sitting on the spiritual river bank.
So, you meditate for 2 hrs per day. What do you do with the other 22 hrs?
The flow of the soul is NOT about meditation. It's making the constant conscious choice in daily life, through ALL the trials and tribulations. Meditation can attune us to the soul, OR it can also block it. Because if you constantly overwrite the subtle flows of the soul, how can you follow it in a moment by moment basis?
It's about becoming the silent witness, and allowing subtle movements to guide you in daily life through the inner plains - like the 4D causal plain where karma is stored.
You also said...
I am inclined to believe that karma may be an Archontic trick to trap souls (which you mention is influenced by David Icke's work).
Have you met these 'Archons'? Do you know what they're like, how they operate, where they come from and what their motivations are?
I assume not. So why do you hold the belief?
Belief is just as limiting as religion, mantra and dogma. It's pointless, in that it stops people dealing with the truth of what is - of what they actually experience.
If you fill your consciousness with beliefs (from other people), then you write over the possibility to feel your own subtle flows within - like karma, for example. It means you're less likely to be able to build the inner multidimensional landscape - which begins as subtle vibrations.
Namaste
<<< Open 💎
Confused and Bemused
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Namaste Open,
I feel a little confused by your latest addition to this thread. Maybe I am being over sensitive (or paranoid) but I feel your comments to be contradictory to your own teaching and are designed to be critical and judgemental.
Let me explain why I feel this. You seem to have an issue with my practise of Tantric Kriya Pranayama (Cosmic Cobra Breathing) yet your own foundation practice of Breakthrough Breathing is based on this very technique - minus the anal and abdominal locks. So, why the problem? All your guided meditations are also based around this same technique and I find them very effective (I engage in them during some of my spare 22 hours most days ;). I also am in the enviable position as a retired person to be able to spend some of those 22 hours as the silent witness amongst the beauty of the natural world that surrounds my home.
Also, yes I did mention Archons, a word derived from the Greek for "rulers" and adopted by the early Gnostics. I believe these Archons to be no different from the implants and Entities that you encourage us to remove in one of your meditations. In my view they are representative of "Opposing Consciousness" and originate from the Intervention by those the Gnostics call the false gods, possibly the Annunaki. You ask me if I have ever encountered one, and the answer is yes, as an implanted entity that can influence both my mental and emotional behaviour. This is why I use your guided meditation to exorcise the little boogers, or at least try to LOL.
As for being influenced by other people and adopting a dogmatic belief system - you could not be more wrong. I have no belief system but I am always curious to find out what others have learned or experienced. I realise you have an issue with David Icke but I also disagree with some of his ideas. As somebody who has written 5 books and thousands of website pages, I imagine you would be hopeful that some people will be influenced by your efforts and possibly gain benefit from it - otherwise, why bother? You have become an "influencer" and I am fairly certain that some people will see you as an infallibe guru even if that was never your intention. This is how a dogmatic belief system is seeded. Maybe Chris Bourne was the historical Yeshua - I bet he never imagined the carnage and corruption that would grow from the mistaken dogmatic belief in his "divinity".
Last point. I feel that maybe I touched a raw nerve with my original question regarding the remastered books. This was not meant as any sort of criticism, it was purely for me to try and decide whether or not to invest my meagre pension in purchasing the new versions. I apologise if you felt I was getting at you. Maybe our previous relationship at the Tashi Llunpo monastery was not a harmonious one, maybe even antagonistic in some way? Unfortunately I have no memory of this life experience - maybe you could expand on your own recollection of our time together in Tibet?
Much love and blessings, Shantiram
Providing a friendly 'prod'
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Hi Shantiram,
It feels like you think I'm judging you, but I am definitely not. You haven't worked with me, so you're not aware that I'm given to 'prod', catalitically but also caringly - I only ever want the best for a person's journey 🙏
The point about the breathing, from an Openhand perspective, is more as attunment. Yes, the Openhand breathing approach (and other practices such as the Bow) are adapted from Kriya - they were refreshed for me by Paramahamsa Prajnanananda - who was a brilliant guide, and then I was guided to adapt a more free-flowing application by Sri Yukteswhar (Paramahansa Yogananda's teacher from the ether). But always the purpose was to tune into the subtle vibrations of the soul and to learn to follow it.
I find the risk of meditation practices, like these, being applied too rigorously, without direct application into daily life, is that they overwrite the subtle flows of soul. It becomes more about the practice rather than direct application into the flow of life.
Yes, I'm well aware that some people might take the Openhand approach as 'teachings' from some 'guru', but anyone whose worked with me will know that I'm constantly reflecting back to the participants and inquiring what they are experiencing - what's their truth? Openhand is not a teaching in this regard. It sets the stage for people to inquire deep into their own truth.
I don't feel any antagonism toward you - not at all. And neither did I back then in Tibet - it felt like a good connection.
Maybe there's a degree of sensitivity to my directness.
It's all designed to support - we have a steep curve to climb in the coming years ahead. 🙏
Much love and well wishes to you.
<<< Open 💎
Thanks For The Prod :-)
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Thank you Open. Your explanation was and is very welcome, I was feeling a little uneasy about the way our dialogue was going, so, I feel relieved and encouraged by your words.
Hoping to actually work with you one day soon.
Namaste , Shantiram
The power fo free-wheeling 🏄🏻♂️
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Hi Shantiram,
Here's another friendly 'prod' - on the Openhand gatherings, I often guide the process of "free-wheeling". Which is learning to tune into different frequencies of the soul, following them, and connecting the quantum feedback loops in so doing. It's probably one of the most powerful evolutionary practices we can engage in.
Do consider an Openhand event soon - it would be a pleasure to host you.
Well wishes
<<< Open 💎
Not Diving but Zooming
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Hi Open,
I have taken your recent comments on board and have decided to "get off the bank and dive in" ;-). Even though I am a technophobe I have registered for the Zoom Ascension Exchange on May 2nd and look forward to doing a little freewheeling with you.
Also, on your recent advice, I have altered my early morning routine. I have stopped the Cosmic Cobra Breath with its muscle locks and now start with 15 minutes Breakthrough Breathing followed by 15 minutes of Chakra Balancing (as per your meditation instructions), followed by about an hour or so of "just sitting" - silent witnessing. This has proved to be a more pleasant and relaxing experience, so thank you. I do the Openhand Bow later in the day, usually combined with one of your guided meditation tracks or some qigong. Hope the weather on the Isle of Man is as pleasant as it is down here in the south and you are enjoying your new home environment.
Love, Shantiram
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